The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

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The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

Postby NewLight » Tue May 04, 2010 3:21 pm

In a few words, here is how you cook TAM
- Put the DRMS into a pot
- Add One Night Stands / SNLs
- Add girls for fun who won't end up as your girlfriend
- Add the Apocalypse
- Add Shock and Awe
- Add a massive propulsion system
- Add a lot of sets and numbers
- Add exercises for life management, girl management, time management
- Add a heap of examples
- Add (now) complete recognition for the desires and needs of men in their 20s and 30s (like me)
- Add filters to put women onto the tracks where you and her will be comfortable
- Most importantly, add meta models and frames to tie all this into a single working system
= You get TAM.

TAM is not a blend of DRMS, SMS and SNL with TR and TMG thrown in. It is the meta model behind all of these seminars.


At this particular seminar I arrived to a rough start with a lot of clashing frames, assumptions and expectations.
It's a smack in the face, no matter where you are coming from. Expect to make room for some radically new concepts.
We were able to resolve them during the first day of the seminar.
The following 5 days were straight forward, and very smooth for a beta.

Even having taken DRMS / SMS and experimenting with some SNL technology, TAM is still massive.
Massive, and hard to break down into parts. Everything blends.

That said, AVVesome did a very good job preparing, testing and evaluating the information that makes up the basis for 'The Revolution!' (TR!).
I was likely the biggest sceptic of TR! approach and his work before taking the seminar, but the presentation, execution and most importantly raw statistical data was convincing. The exercises (as far as I have seen / done them so far) are fun and practical. The results speak for themselves.

The goal of TAM is similar to the goal of the DRMS - find, meet, get and keep (a) really great girl(s)
While the DRMS presented a defined ruleset for this process (which still holds), TAM provides the methods for deriving this ruleset.
So if you are young (like me), feel a lot of fire burning and just want to have a lot of whacky sex with girls who will never be your girlfriend, TAM let's you design protocols and frames to accomplish this goal.
More importantly though, it will allow you to design protocols and frames to do so effectively, with dignity, honestly and safely.

For me, the closest term to describe TAM is being "off the leash".
"What do you want?" -> Design it -> Make it happen
That and a wealth of resources, references and personalized input is TAM in a nutshell.

I am looking forward to an amazing year putting TAM into practice for many purposes and goals.
It will be a lot of fun.

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Re: The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

Postby AVVesome » Thu May 06, 2010 10:34 am

I also attended TAM as a teacher for The Revolution! portion and as student with NewLight and Special K for everything else, which Kid44 taught.

I started writing a review, but NewLight's review pretty much hit all the main points. The only thing I would add is even though Kid44 specifically said that The Amazing Man is “not a Unified Pickup Theory” near the end of the seminar, somehow I kind of feel that's what it is. Boiled down to a sentence, it's about learning how to mold more and more of your own reality, and the benefits and costs of doing so. This, of course, includes banging tons of girls AND/OR going after The One, because, what dude doesn't want that in his reality?

While preparing for The Revolution! portion I taught, I learned/experienced an incredible amount and I hope what I had to say/show was useful. The rest of the seminar was a pleasure to take, lots of crazy fun stories and full of valuable information.

I'm also quite excited by what kind of changes I'll be making in the near future and far future because of TAM. Feel free to post any questions / comments you might have.
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Re: The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

Postby NewLight » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:19 pm

TAM - One Month Later

Cold stats (my favorite) first.

Year after my bootcamp
Sets opened: ~2000
Average time sarging/day: 2h
Closes: 7
LRM before close (still closed): 5
Closes lost to LMR: 6
Average time to close: 3h
Attractiveness: Good

Year after DRMS
Sets opened: ~800
Average time sarging/day: 10 minutes
Closes: 6
LMR before close (still closed): 0
Closes lost to LMR: 1
Average time to close: 20h
Attractiveness: Good

MONTH after TAM
Sets opened: 1077
Average time sarging/day: 45 minutes
Closes: 7
LMR before close (still closed): 0
Closes lost to LMR: 1 (20 minutes after opening on a Ferris wheel after screwing up the apocalypse)
Average time to close: 3.5h
Attractiveness: Dang.


Apart from girls, I have lost 3kg in fat and gained 5kg in muscle during the month, hitting the gym with the same routine as doing my sets.

What I personally like about TAM is that it shortens the lay-time (compared to pure DRMS) while allowing me to fully keep my dignity intact.
The numbers are easily explained. TAM takes away all the stuff that keeps you from screwing up and focuses on the things that you need to be successful on the close. There really isn't much you need to do to make it happen.
But girls come in various colors and each requires an individual approach. Negotiating that approach is what TAM is about.
My stats say it works.

TR! is great in supplying more and more girls to the cycle. Opening is routine, AA seems utterly silly by now.
With numbers increased hotness.
I call up roughly 15% of the numbers I get. The others were either not hot enough or not fun enough. I delete them uncalled.
Having choices allows for ruthless disqualification.

The ones who remain are hot, chill and fun.
Basically I'll call up the girls in order of hotness and personality until my week is full with dates. Then delete the rest.

This way the conversion rate from first date (45 minutes) has increased. Basically girls show up for the second date - unless I decide against calling them (about half the time). 90% of second dates lead to third dates.
All third dates closed.

Does this sound like something you want in your life?



And yes, if anyone wants "empirical data/proof" I have daily spreadsheets and underwear photos. :roll:
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Re: The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

Postby Taisho » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:16 am

what are you doing for 1st dates now?

also, what kind of gym routine are you doing? (-3kg / +5kg in one month?)
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Re: The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

Postby NewLight » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:59 am

Taisho wrote:what are you doing for 1st dates now?


45 minutes in a cafe next to my gym and sarging ground.
The typical DRMS first date, using DRMS strategies. The list of disqualifiers is (slightly) different, the techniques are the same.

Taisho wrote:also, what kind of gym routine are you doing? (-3kg / +5kg in one month?)


Super Squats. 3x a week.
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Re: The Amazing Man Seminar (TAM) - May 2010

Postby Mr. Mojo » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:52 pm

As in this one: http://www.ironworkout.com/20_rep_squat.htm ?

Looks good. But the diet plan they put up sucks.
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